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575: Barbie, Slavery, and the Image of God with Carmen Imes


Hollywood is struggling. Fewer people are going to theaters, but this week saw the opening of two huge movies including Barbie. Can the movie revive Hollywood, or will its social commentary drive more Americans away? Florida’s anti-woke policy is now revising how its public schools teach history by saying enslaved people benefited from the skills they learned. What’s really behind the move to downplay the evil of slavery? Dr. Carmen Imes is back to discuss her new book “Being God’s Image.” She says the Bible has a radical message of human dignity and equality, but Christian communities often unknowingly undermine this ethic. Plus, Elon Musk rebrands Twitter, and scary stories from the beach.



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0:00 - Intro


1:48 - Show Starts


2:35 - Theme Song


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4:08 - Scary Stories from the Beach


10:57 - Barbenheimer and Conservative outrage over Hollywood


31:39 - Florida trying downplay slavery


45:12 - Twitter changing to X


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54:20 - Interview Intro


59:56 - What it means to be God’s image


1:12:24 - What the Church gets wrong about the Image of God


1:22:00 - How Jesus is and isn’t the Image of God


1:30:43 - End Credits



Links mentioned in news segment:


‘Barbie’ breaks box-office records while crushing right-wing outrage



New Florida standards teach students that some Black people benefited from slavery because it taught useful skills


Twitter is turning into X. Analysts don’t see the treasure map.



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Being God’s Image by Carmen Imes - https://amzn.to/44FTPGA


Bearing God’s name by Carmen Imes - https://amzn.to/3Obi3S9



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19 Comments


Susanna Holbrook
Susanna Holbrook
Jul 29, 2023

I agree with the above commenter who suggests a young woman on to talk about Barbie. May I petition for… Skye’s oldest daughter??

The remark Skye relayed, of her saying “I didn’t mind the cultural commentary because it was overt and explicit…” wow, is she your child, Skye! 😆

And I would love to hear from her what she thought!

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chastmastr
Jul 29, 2023

In the interview, at 66 minutes in, I was startled and really thrown at even someone raising the possibility that God already had a body. That’s not an option in Christian orthodox theology. Yes, with the incarnation of Jesus He does of course. But in the old testament? No. Just I’m sorry I’m having trouble typing here because I’m using voice to text. But no, that’s a major heresy. That’s not really an option.

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S R
S R
Jul 31, 2023
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Is it? Jacob wrestled with God ...

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Sue E
Sue E
Jul 29, 2023

I came to comment about the Barbie movie, but am glad to see there is already several comments and an article extoling the virtues of it. As a 47 year old woman with a 10 year old daughter, this movie hit the mark in so many ways - the satiricle take on partriarchy, the subtle yet ingenius nods to so many experiences that women share (even including the internal struggle of standing up to a man that has been abusive), plus the beautiful message that life is messy and complicated, which means there is no "perfect way" to live it. My only comment, is to Skye, to please take your son to see this movie. I went with my whole…


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S R
S R
Jul 31, 2023
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Yeah, the early Disney movies have some pretty messed up content - think drunken baby elephants, racial caricatures in the form of birds and cats, outright racism against Native Americans in Peter Pan, children smoking cigars in Pinocchio, traumatic parental deaths e.g. Bambi's mother ... Maybe they weren't controversial at the time they came out, but like you say, zero effort was made to think through whether or not this content should be presented to kids and if so, in what light.


Also, the Barbie movie is a Ken out of Ken.

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Tyler
Tyler
Jul 28, 2023

Skye, you need to find better comparisons.


There are a billion examples in history of most people being in a lukewarm, neutral, center, indifferent, or ignorant position, and then one side takes a position in one direction and the other side reactions strongly in the other direction. Happens all the time, like you said.


So pick one of the examples that doesn't result in making a comparison between supporting LGBTQIA+ people and supporting the enslavement of an entire population of humans. That's all I'm asking. Think to yourself, "Does this need to be compared to slavery? Should this ever be compared to slavery? Is this on any level the same as slavery?" The Holocaust comparison in the news, when that…


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stkrichmond
Jul 28, 2023

Skye was wise to steer the conversation away from trying to discuss the Barbie movie without having seen it. It was the best movie I’ve seen in a long time. (For my age, a 49 year old mom, and my daughters, 14 and 16.) It does address patriarchy in The most amazing way of equal parts humor and deep insight. Any man who watches this and feels defensive enough to want to attack the message must be a weak and insecure person. Greta Gerwig nails what it feels like to be a woman in this country, including how we relate to and “posture” for other women. I felt freedom in the fact that women’s hidden truths were spoken so clearly…

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