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572: Christian Nationalist Hospitality & Atheists Get Political with Ryan Burge

Throughout the Bible, God’s people are commanded to show hospitality to strangers. But Christian Nationalists unhappy about the number of immigrants in the U.S. are redefining biblical hospitality and twisting the words of Jesus to justify the deportation of millions. What does their inversion of biblical teachings reveal about the Christian Nationalist agenda? Then, pastor, political science professor, and Holy Post Pundit, Ryan Burge, is back to talk about the surprising data around the political activism of atheists, and why the rise of non-religious Americans is dangerous for democracy and destabilizing for society. Plus, why did the media obsess over the five lives lost on the Titanic submersible and largely ignore the capsized refugee boat that killed more than 500?

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0:00 - Intro

1:17 - Show Starts

2:28 - Theme Song

2:49 - Sinking of the Titan Submersible

10:11 - Christian Hospitality = Mass Deportation?

22:39 - Responding to Common Objections of Our Stance on Immigration


39:31 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling

40:39 - Sponsor - Blueland

41:47 - Interview Intro

44:09 - The rise of political activism among atheists

54:11 - Political activism replacing religious impulses

1:02:59 - Religious Freedom

1:19:19 - End Credits

Links mentioned in news segment:

A tale of two disasters: Missing Titanic sub captivates the world days after deadly migrant shipwreck

The Virtue of Hospitality

Other resources:

No One Participates in Politics More than Atheists

Ryan Burge’s Substack

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Ambre Shoneff
Ambre Shoneff
Jul 14, 2023

Did Ryan really say he doesn’t want the government to tell him he has to marry interracial couples? This sounded bad to me.


As a good balance to some of the more intense things Ryan said about fractures on the left, maybe you want to bring on John Pavlovitz, or Randy Knie and get a pulse on progressive Christians? I think that group may be growing faster than they appear, and I think some of the "fractures on the left" Ryan mentioned may not be as uncrossable as I understood him to be expressing. Just another brain-burp. ...ank


I have lived in Turkey for nearly ten years and I can say that what Skye mentioned about his experience in Tarsus is something I have experienced countless times. What I have learned about hospitality from Turkish Muslims humbles me constantly. They really see a guest coming into their home as an honor. You, as a guest, are doing them a favor by coming to their home and eating their food. When I realized this is actually much closer Biblical hospitality I was undone, I don’t know if I’ll ever match Turks in their hospitality but I do hope more of them join the kingdom and help us learn.


By the way, I can't find my comment about this (from some weeks back) now, but as I progress through the podcasts from 2013, I do see (er, hear) a lot more analysis of the genuine danger of Christian Nationalism than at the very beginning of the discussion of the book "Christian Nation." At the very beginning, it seemed like the HP folks didn't really think it was a real issue, and that the writer of the book was being overly paranoid, but in future episodes there's a lot more discussion of the kind of stuff we're now seeing all over the place. I only wish the writer of "Christian Nation" *had* just been paranoid...


Some of the discussion about hospitality and a lack thereof reminds me of a scene in George MacDonald's Lilith (1895): "Take me home safe, and I will give you shelter from it," she rejoined. "But we must wait a little!"

I asked her many questions. She told me the people never did anything except dig for precious stones in their cellars. They were rich, and had everything made for them in other towns.

"Why?" I asked.

"Because it is a disgrace to work," she answered. "Everybody in Bulika knows that!"

I asked how they were rich if none of them earned money. She replied that their ancestors had saved for them, and they never spent. When they wanted money they sold…

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