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Episode 523: Cultivating a Curious Faith with Lore Ferguson Wilbert

Two things are simultaneously true about America: More Americans than ever before are abandoning religion, and America remains the most devoutly Christian industrialized country in the world. Today's episode navigates this tension. First, a recent article by Helen Lewis says non-believers still have religious impulses that are now being expressed through political activism. Is Christian faith being replaced by Wokism on the left and Nationalism on the right?

Then, David French asks why our politics are so toxic and hateful if both parties are still dependent on devoutly Christian voters. What will it take for believers on both sides to put Christian virtue ahead of just winning elections? And Kaitlyn Schiess talks to Lore Ferguson Wilbert about her new book, “A Curious Faith: The Questions God Asks, We Ask, and We Wish Someone Would Ask Us.” She says too many Christian communities discourage curiosity while the Bible is “a permission slip to ask questions.” Plus, scientists are growing animals in artificial wombs without eggs or sperm. What could possibly go wrong?

Patreon Bonus - Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: The Harrowing of Hell 101 -

News Segment

0:00 - Intro

4:07 - What could possibly go wrong?

15:20 - Is social justice a new religion?

30:46 - Christian political ethics

Interview with Lore Ferguson Wilbert

"A Curious Faith: The Questions God Asks, We Ask, and We Wish Someone Would Ask Us" -

48:37 - Lore Ferguson Wilbert intro

50:02 - Why we struggle with questions

57:27 - Joy in questions

1:03:54 - Questions in Scripture

1:13:47 - Facing life's questions

1:20:09 - Jesus' humanity

1:25:50 - Credits

Other articles and resources mentioned:

"Synthetic embryos grown from stem cells don't need sperm or eggs" -

"How Social Justice Became a New Religion" by Helen Lewis (The Atlantic) -

"Christian Political Ethics Are Upside Down" by David French (The Dispatch) -

Holy Post episode 522 (last week's episode) -

"Overland to the Islands" poem by Denise Levertov -

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