Episode 497: The Progressive Christian Checklist & Ending Online Worship with Tish Harrison Warren

Updated: Feb 24


Why do black seminarians graduate with a lot more student debt than whites, and what does it mean for churches? A recent Gospel Coalition article by Alisa Childers argues that the word “deconstruction” is universally bad and should not be redeemed. Is she right or is it another example of Christians overreacting to a complicated issue?


Then Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn take Childers’ online quiz to determine whether they are progressive Christians. Anglican priest and author Tish Harrison Warren talks to Skye about her controversial New York Times column saying it’s time to end online streaming worship services, and she argues that the pro-choice movement is hypocritical for not making the choice to keep a child easier. Plus, Phil shares his hard-won wisdom about what not to post on Twitter.


News Segment


0:00 Intro

3:56 - Trucker protests in Canada

6:55 - COVID death rate graph

https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1495044505363492866

14:42 - Black seminarians graduating with more debt

https://religionnews.com/2022/02/17/black-seminary-grads-with-debt-higher-than-others-cope-with-money-and-ministry/


Glenn Packiam interview: https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-496-the-embrace-of-tyrants-the-despair-of-pastors


26:43 - Deconstruction

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/redeem-reconstruction/

Interview with Tish Harrison Warren


"The Systemic Realities Created by Legal Abortion" article - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/22/opinion/roe-legal-abortion.html

"Why Churches Should Drop Their Online Services" article -

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/30/opinion/church-online-services-covid.html


49:41 - Guest intro

51:40 - Abortion and a broken system

55:50 - Feminism and abortion

1:00:23 - Online worship services

1:01:42 - Importance of embodied worship

1:06:04 - Technology in community

1:18:25 - Pushback from people unable to attend services

1:29:37 - End


Other Links/Resources:

https://tishharrisonwarren.com/

"Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life" - https://amzn.to/3IbFy9l

Patreon Bonus Segments:

Full abortion conversation with Tish Harrison Warren - https://www.patreon.com/posts/62922779/

Bonus news story - https://www.patreon.com/posts/62922997/

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