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Episode 490: Lessons from the Global Church with Christine Caine


Phil experienced a Twitter typhoon last week when he suggested “love your country” is not a Biblical command. The Holy Post crew unpacks the reactions and asks what separates godly and ungodly patriotism. Then, Skye talks to Christine Caine, founder of The A21 Campaign, about her experience of American evangelicalism as an Australian Pentecostal.


With decades of experience in ministry around the world, and working against human trafficking in 14 countries, Caine says she was shocked by what she found in the American church, and advocates for more listening and cooperation with Christians in other traditions and cultures. Also this week, a Japanese professor invents a TV you can taste, and a town in the UK is terrorized by a bloodthirsty squirrel.


News Segment:



15:16 - ERLC clarification 17:38 - Critiquing our own team and purpose of the Holy Post 27:59 - Phil’s Twitter discussions on love of country 46:10 Sponsors

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Interview with Christine Caine: A21 organization: https://www.a21.org

48:36 - Interview Start 49:49 - Experience in Pentecostal church 55:28 - Church celebrity culture 1:05:02 - Healthy skepticism 1:09:12 - Cross-tradition interaction & the global church 1:25:17 - Ending




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Ericka J I
Ericka J I
04 feb 2022

i think the concern with the comments to invite other people from other beliefs on is not to cause a debate, but sometimes you say things about other groups that show you do not understand them correctly. you say things about other groups that are flat out wrong. bringing someone else on who has a different view isnt about debating, you guys are so good at not debating, i mean skye literally plays devils advocate in every interview! its about listening to that other side and learning what they really think or believe or stand for. that way, when you refer to some other group, you can speak about them in a more tactful correct way that respects them as…

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In response to the statement about familial closeness I refer you to this: Prob 27:10 " Do not forsake your friend or a friend of your family,

and do not go to your relative’s house when disaster strikes you—

better a neighbor nearby than a relative far away."

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Philip Ayers
Philip Ayers
07 ene 2022

Hi! In this episode, Skye talked about the “biblical theology of relational proximity” (or something like that), and I was wondering if you could explain that a little more? When I first heard it, I was thinking “yeah, of course you gotta help people closer first” but then as I got to thinking about it more, I had some questions. What exactly are the biblical arguments for this? I understand the practical arguments; after all, the closer relationaly someone is, the more effectively you will probably be able to aid them, and thus your time/resources will have more impact. But ever since listening to Phil's talks chiding Evangelicals' obsession with “impact,” I've been less convinced by these sorts of arguments…

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Prob 27:10 "Do not forsake your friend or a friend of your family,

and do not go to your relative’s house when disaster strikes you—

better a neighbor nearby than a relative far away."

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For your 500th episode you should print out a script of the first episode and do a reboot.

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Tim Keith
Tim Keith
06 ene 2022

Love your country is an interesting sentiment for an expat..... Not really much to add, but which country should I love the US or the UK? (Or maybe just England because I don't live in Wales or Scotland).

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