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Episode 475: Mammoths, McDowell, & Making Sense of White Supremacy with Robert P. Jones


Data from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) has found that white Christians—including mainline Protestants, Catholics, and evangelicals—are the most racist religious group in America, Robert P. Jones, the CEO of PRRI, says this isn’t a bug within white American Christianity, but a feature. He discusses his new book “White Too Long” about the lingering legacy of white supremacy in the church.


Also this week, apologist Josh McDowell joins those saying CRT is the greatest threat facing the church, but does his argument contradict itself? Why is belief in miracles going up if overall belief in religion is going down? Phil says we shouldn’t worry about scientists trying to resurrect woolly mammoths. Christian explains why she’s in the Netherlands. And police in the UK issue a warning about kids buying beans.


News Segment

Where in the world is Christian? [00:47]


Christian’s research and wooden shoes [4:51]


Police issue warning over children ‘buying large quantities of cans of beans’ [9:31] https://www.unilad.co.uk/viral/police-issue-warning-over-children-buying-large-quantities-of-cans-of-beans/


Firm raises $15m to bring back woolly mammoth from extinction [16:44] https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/sep/13/firm-bring-back-woolly-mammoth-from-extinction



New stat: Do you believe in religious miracles? [35:41] https://twitter.com/ryanburge/status/1439949279192301573



Interview with Robert P. Jones

PRRI - https://www.prri.org “The End of White Christian America” - https://amzn.to/3Eu1OK2


“White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in America Christianity” - https://amzn.to/3ArH57r



Interview Start [44:18]

The white Christian shuffle [48:26] Al Mohler and the SBC’s racist history [51:35]

Theology of white Christianity [55:31]

Data from “Deep Roots: How Slavery Still Shapes Southern Politics” [1:07:59] https://amzn.to/3u0lIHQ

More data: Thermometer vs. race index [1:11:10]

United Daughters of the Confederacy - catechisms [1:15:24]

Does church attendance affect racist attitudes? [1:20:22]


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18件のコメント


Smiley (Stage name)
Smiley (Stage name)
2021年9月26日

Hey Phil, what's your favourite band. mine is U2

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Derek Miedema
Derek Miedema
2021年9月24日

I love your podcast! Funny and challenging and hardhitting and silly. A great blend.


i just have a comment about Phil’s portrayal of the missing cows and pigs during WW2. (I have a pair of wooden shoes; mock me to the ends of the earth. I agree)


i am the son and grandson of Dutch immigrants on both sides of my family. (My parents were kids).


I grew up with stories of the war. Mothers in cities during the “hunger winter’“ boiling tulip bulbs as many times as they could to feed their families because there was nothing to eat. Cities denuded of trees so that they could heat their homes. Cats and dogs on the menu.


I have an…


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Derek Miedema
Derek Miedema
2021年9月24日
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Thanks Phil.


The three of you are such a great combination. I won’t stop listening; I’ll pick up with the next episode😁


I’m encouraged, challenged and made to laugh too much to stop!


in Christ,


Derek

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Bonnie Toney
Bonnie Toney
2021年9月23日

Another great episode - I had a comment I wanted to make about the host portion that has completely slipped my mind, so I will have to go back and listen again at some point (darn it, twist my arm) so I can come back and make it.

On the interview portion, wow, that was a LOT of hard-hitting, convicting data. But I was struck by something in the discussion of Al Mohler deliberately saying in his (Mohler’s) book that no one told the SBC founders that slavery was wrong when he (Mohler) is too good a scholar not to know about all the abolitionists who did exactly that. Even while calling Mohler out for this egregious untruth, neither…

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Michael Alonzo
Michael Alonzo
2021年9月23日

For Skye's comment on the Mammoth, I would argue that there might be some economical benefit to domesticating Wooly Mammoths for use as pack and work animals on farms or in rural areas in the Arctic regions, like in northern Russia, Alaska, and northern Canada. Yes?

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Smiley (Stage name)
Smiley (Stage name)
2021年9月26日
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This is not verified to not be not untrue

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Daniella Scaffidi
Daniella Scaffidi
2021年9月23日

I agree with the "what could go wrong?!" status of the Mammoth story, but just one thought -- I understand that Wooly Mammoths are needed to help slow down the destruction of the permafrost. Apparently, there is too much snow covering the permafrost which used to be moved off by the migrating herds of mammoths. Somehow the extra snow messes with the temperatures that would keep the permafrost from thawing. It's a thing. I think there are more conservative measures to introduce other currently living species into those regions sooner. So for what it's worth!

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