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624: The Debate Debacle & Our Broken Political Parties with Chris Butler & Justin Giboney

Updated: Sep 18

In this special episode, Kaitlyn and Skye are joined by the co-hosts of the Church Politics podcast, Justin Giboney and Chris Butler, to discuss the fallout from last week’s presidential debate. Will President Biden drop out? What does the Supreme Court’s ruling about presidential immunity mean for a possible second Trump term? And why have both political parties nominated candidates who are demonstrably incapable of fulfilling the presidential oath of office? It’s a wide-ranging conversation about the broken state of American politics and where Christians can find hope.





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1:08 - Intro


2:26 - Theme Song


2:47 - Show starts


4:35 - Recapping the Presidential Debate


10:00 - Fallout from Biden’s Debate Performance


22:00 - Our Broken Political System


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42:41 - Predictions for the rest of the election season


1:05:10 - Trump Immunity Case Ruling


1:19:00 - End Credits


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4 Comments


Tyler
Tyler
Jul 06

I found myself disappointed in the both-side-isms of this episode. I'll admit, I want any other option from the Democrats than Biden. But from the Republicans, let's call Trump what he is: an anti-Christ. And I don't mean "The Antichrist", but an anti-Christ. Let's look at the simple facts:


  1. Trump has broken all of the 10 Commandments (and that's the literal commandments, not any metaphorical extensions) or bragged he could break the one he hasn't directly with immunity. Trump has also broken all of Jesus' love commandments, and not simply broken but done it was joy, pleasure, and non-repentance.

  2. A large subset of Christians who have interwoven their conservative politics and religion celebrate Trump as America's savior (they generally won't…


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This was a pretty disappointing episode. Skye seems to have concluded that Biden can't perform the duties of office--despite the fact that he has been for the past three years, helping to get several significant pieces of bipartisan legislation passed--because during the debate Biden was hoarse and "stared off into space" (what?--he was looking at Trump, was looking at the moderators, and was looking off to the side when rolling his eyes at what Trump said). He spoke in some detail--unlike Trump, ever--about policy. But what was extremely disappointing about this Holy Post episode was the apparent lack of awareness on the part of the participants of the most recent historical examples of a president deciding not to run. What…

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Wow. The passes given Donald Trump by Chris and Justin are very concerning to me. So he lies? And people don’t care? Trump’s first 4 yrs was disastrous to a lot of policy, we were treading water and driving up the deficit, and we were good? The Biden situation is disturbing, but I’m voting for party policy. Democracy is at stake here. Never have I agreed 100% with any candidate ever, but the Trump Platform is really scary.

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KB76
KB76
Jul 16
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I don't think that they were giving Donald Trump a "pass." I believe they were just explaining why certain groups of people will likely vote for him over Biden. They weren't agreeing with this line of thinking, but were trying to help us understand how someone could reach a point of voting for Trump, in spite of all of his obvious lies and dangerous rhetoric. I would say that it's quite clear that a large chunk of our population is willing to give Trump a pass for all of his past sins - including many Evangelicals.

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