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404: Gender, Culture, and leadership with Jo Saxton



The culture in many Christian communities and organizations is toxic for leaders, their families, and their faith. This is especially true for female leaders. Jo Saxton is back to talk about her new book, “Ready to Rise,” and how churches neglect God’s gifts when they ignore women’s voices and abilities, and why women suppress their gifts to be seen as “humble.” And don’t miss Jo’s important interpretation of the Mary and Martha story from the gospels—Wow. Also this week: Skye shares his family’s quarantine rules. Scholars are redefining the meaning of “evangelical” away from any shared theology and toward shared politics and media figures. Half of Americans aren’t wearing pants while working at home. Self-cleaning underwear has just arrived and you’ll need it when you see 2020’s latest plague—Murder Hornets.




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Rob Klarmann
Rob Klarmann
May 20, 2020

Thanks once again for continuing to bring us your podcast, especially in this time. Really enjoyed hearing from Jo and it's such a vital topic. I wanted to share this recent interview between Carey Nieuwhof and Tim Keller on Post-Christian America. Perhaps you could touch on it in one of the next episodes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNve3Hexh28

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Adam Pomfret
Adam Pomfret
May 19, 2020

It'd be nice to have links to the articles that Phil refers to in the show notes.

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Skye - I was doing yard work while listening and when you said, "As a male leader, I'm going to have to give an account one day for why I didn't use this gift that God has clearly given to the church for the benefit of the church," I started hard crying into the hole I was digging. I listened to it later and it brought tears to my eyes again.


When I took Foundations of the Ordination of Wonen, I remember saying to a male friend, "It is so important for us to have men who will back us on this. Women shouldn't have to spend their whole life preaching defensive sermons about why its ok that they're preaching."…


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Tori M
Tori M
May 15, 2020

It was so awesome having Jo on! I loved hearing from her and have added her book to my to-read list! Also News of the Butt is my favourite segment! Honestly it's crazy how this podcast seems to be specially designed for my interests. Thanks for all your hard work!

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Phil Vischer
Phil Vischer
May 14, 2020

Unfortunately, my schedule hasn't opened up at all. I'm as busy as I've ever been!

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