709: A Rabbi and a Priest Walk into a Podcast with Father James Martin

Phil Vischer
Feb 25
2 min read

Many of our political leaders invoke the Bible, but Rabbi Shai Held says many don’t understand one of its most important commands. Rabbi Held argues that Scripture’s call to love immigrants was a “moral revolution” and says the mistreatment of immigrants is an abomination in God’s eyes. Skye interviews Father James Martin about his new memoir, “Work in Progress,” about his journey from the business world to the priesthood. They also discuss the link between Jesuit spirituality and Protestant theology, and they get nerdy about Jesus and temple theology. Also this week—the rise of non-denoms, and Phil wants cornhole in the Olympics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peGEFjViSfE

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James Martin Bonus Interview on LGBTQ and the Catholic Church:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/151553201/

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0:00 - Show Starts

2:15 - Theme Song

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5:55 - Winter Olympics!

15:06 - A Rabbi’s Op-Ed on Immigration

27:45 - More Life-Saving Aid Cut

37:58 - Non-Denominational Churches

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54:55 - Interview

57:03 - How Father Martin Became a Jesuit Priest

1:04:53 - Post-Secularism

1:15:02 - The Woman at the Well

1:27:46 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

A Rabbi on Immigration and the Bible:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/22/opinion/immigrants-religion-bible-politics.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/religion

Trump Administration Cutting More AID Programs:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2026/02/trump-state-department-ending-aid-seven-african-countries/686106/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/TheAtlantic

Why Are Non-Denominationals so Big?

https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/those-non-denoms-are-just-southern?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1561197&post_id=182170104&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=6smb2&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

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2 Comments

Taylor Yoder

Feb 28

This was a great episode overall. I enjoyed the interview, but I think Skye and James both misunderstand the woman at the well. This is a great little article about her, and I want to share it. Also, I highly recommend Lynn Cohick's chapter on the Samaritan Woman in Sandra Glahn's Vindicating the Vixens text.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-183810157

whiteoak9

Feb 27

Sort of skated over the Counter-Reformation during the interview ...... The Counter-Reformation (approx. 1545–1648) caused significant deaths through religious wars, inquisitions, and persecution, with estimates of the Thirty Years' War alone reaching 7–12 million. Key events included the French Wars of Religion (millions of deaths) and executions under the Spanish Inquisition (thousands).