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547 French Friday: Selling Out, Gay Wedding Websites, & How People Change


David French shares about his move to The New York Times, and why MAGA Conservatives call him a “sell out” when journalism on the far right is where the big money is found. Then, Skye and David discuss the 303 Creative case at the Supreme Court. Is creating a website a service or is it speech? The answer will determine whether the government may compel some religious businesses to support same-sex weddings. And new research shows diversity training is largely ineffective. Why do we continue to believe pre-packaged programs—both inside and outside the church—are how to change beliefs and behaviors?


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1:09 - Intro


2:23 - David French to New York Times


16:33 - Diversity Training


41:08 - 303 Creative


1:03:24 - End Credits


David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench


Links mentioned in interview

“David French Joins The Times as an Opinion Columnist” - https://www.nytco.com/press/david-french-joins-the-times-as-an-opinion-columnist/






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13 commentaires


sabrina collins
sabrina collins
28 déc. 2023

When looking for a wedding photographer, such as those featured at https://wezoree.com/vendors/miami/photographers/, it is important to properly research and examine your alternatives. There are financial factors, but it is also critical to choose an expert whose beliefs and ambitions align with your own. Due to the intricacy of the features and challenges that must be solved, a well-planned and implemented route is important for completing the voyage successfully.

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DFH
DFH
03 févr. 2023

In an aside, Skye mentions the interesting observations of a long-time college professor on people who have shaped young adults. The idea that a peer of one's parents can speak to you in a way that is received differently makes sense, and it jives with my experiences. Is a link to this professor's writing on the topic available?

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David French misses the point of DEI training completely. One major purpose is to change behavior- not necessarily hearts and minds. I am a female in a majority male industry (95% male). I know that men are sometimes uncomfortable interacting with women in work environments, and they may not know what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior. This training can help clarify these boundaries, or at least make clear what will get them in trouble with HR. If we didn’t have some sort of training of this nature or at least an acknowledgement that workplace harassment is an issue, I would feel a lot less comfortable going to HR if I had a problem.

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Mark Norman
Mark Norman
30 janv. 2023

Read through the NYT opinion column Mr French references in "The Most Important Thing..." and the research referenced in the article. The three take-away messages are (1) journalists suck at reporting on research - always have to insert their own drama, (2) it should be no surprise that people fight against things that threaten their dominance, and (3) they missed the point.


1-In the same breath Singal says that "Over the years, social scientists... have conducted careful reviews of the evidence base for diversity training" and also that there have only been "two two large experimental studies in the previous decade." Hard to have much evidence without much research. Of course, this doesn't stop Singal from expounding and riffing on…


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Paul Barnes
Paul Barnes
30 janv. 2023

I have a question for David about the 303 Creative case. If this case is decided as you expect, does this open the door for web designers who identify as Christian to refuse to do wedding web sites for mixed race couples because miscegenation is against their sincerely held religious belief? Or maybe a mixed religion wedding because they it's an (in their opinion) an unequally yoked relationship?


Where is the line drawn?

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Skye Jethani
Skye Jethani
01 févr. 2023
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Terms are getting muddled in this discussion. The issue isn't "creative expression." The issue is "speech" — meaning the communication of a message. While the preparation of a gourmet meal may be a "creative expression" of the chef, the food on the plate is not speech. No one looking at the food would be able to interpret a message. Therefore, when the government says a restaurant cannot refuse service to someone based on their gender, religion, sexuality, etc., they are NOT compelling the restaurant owner or chef to create any speech against their will. There is no violation of the First Amendment. A website with words and images IS speech. It isn't like a gourmet meal. Anyone looking at a…

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