696: Transcending Our Political Divisions & Labels with Andy Beshear
- Phil Vischer
- Nov 19, 2025
- 2 min read
Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss a New York Times column by David Brooks. He says America’s divisions will only heal when we abandon shallow labels and war metaphors, and instead see one another as fellow pilgrims on a journey. America’s Catholic bishops issue a stern rebuke of the Trump administration’s dehumanizing rhetoric and policies, which makes Phil wonder why evangelical leaders can’t do the same. Then, Skye talks to Kentucky’s Democratic governor, Andy Beshear, about why he’s so popular in a state that Donald Trump won by 30 points, and how his party can begin to narrow the “God gap” with voters. Also this week—an A.I. vacuum cleaner has an existential crisis.
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45:50 - Catholic Bishops Critical on Immigration Law
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52:21 - Interview
54:48 - What Went Wrong with Democrats?
1:03:42 - Fire with Fire Approach?
1:09:06 - Democrat’s Aversion to Religious Language
1:13:30 - Pro-Life Democrats?
1:21:51 - How Will Democrats Change?
1:25:32 - End Credits
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very much appreciated the conversation with Andy Beshear. I couldn’t help but notice that his “talk like normal people”, a point that makes a lot of sense, didn’t extend to abortion. There he used the partisan framing of “reproductive rights.” I actually agree with his stance, but the inconsistency caught my attention.