690: Flying Bishops, Evangelical Ignorance, & Slow Theology with A.J. Swoboda & Nijay Gupta
- Phil Vischer
- Oct 8
- 2 min read
Updated: Oct 9
For the first time ever, the U.K. has appointed a woman as the Archbishop of Canterbury to lead the global Anglican Communion. Kaitlyn, Skye, and Mike Erre discuss the implications of appointment and how Anglicans use “flying bishops” to maintain unity over divisive theological issues. Are there lessons here for other divided Christian communities? The latest “State of Theology” report shows a shocking number of evangelicals hold contradictory beliefs. Why are evangelical churches so bad at teaching the Bible and theology? Kaitlyn talks with A.J. Swoboda and Nijay Gupta, co-authors of “Slow Theology,” about how our cultural addiction to speed and quick answers actually fuels spiritual disillusionment and deconstruction. Also this week—new data shows why most female animals outlive males.
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0:00 - Show Starts
3:08 - Theme Song
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6:11 - Men Die Sooner Than Women!
14:22 - Women Can Be Archbishops?
36:15 - Why Don’t Evangelicals Know Theology?
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55:55 - Interview
56:17 - Why Slow Theology?
59:50 - Deconstruction as Chemotherapy
1:13:17 - Orthodoxy for Power Rather Than Obedience
1:27:02 - End Credits
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Study Shows Evangelicals Don’t Know Theology:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/10/state-of-theology-evangelicals-confused-conflicted-belief/
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Slow Theology: Eight Practices for Resilient Faith in a Turbulent World (A Guide to Deep Faith in Our Busy Modern Lives) by A. J. Swoboda and Nijay K. Gupta:
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A few thoughts:
1 - Sorry Skye. Ligonier is not spelled or pronounced Legionnaire. Kaitlyn had that one right, at least according to the videos we watched on VCR tapes from them on Holiness in the 80s.
2 - Kaitlyn mentioned in passing a key point in theological education. Catechism isn't usually part of the Baptist, Baptistic, and related independent church traditions. This was missing in my growing up years, and I think for many others as well. I had to work to learn things for myself since I wasn't taught them.
3 - Regarding young people asking more questions than adults. This was just as true when I was a teenager in an evangelical church in the early '70s…
I decided to wait until I listened to the whole episode before posting. Baby steps towards responsible social media usage! Skye mentioned that headbutting is not something that is expected in a church context. In some circles, a headbutt is a way of passing of the peace. Upon reflection, wait. Where was I going with this? I haven't thought this through, but Flying Bishop could be the Jar Jar of the Marvel Universe