676: Classroom Culture Wars & the Spirituality of Secular America with Rachel Martin
- Phil Vischer
- Jul 2
- 2 min read
With Phil on vacation, Kaitlyn and Esau join Skye to talk about the Supreme Court’s ruling that public schools must allow students to opt out of gender or sexuality content that may contradict the religious beliefs of their families. At the same time, more Americans say public schools should hire chaplains to offer spiritual guidance to students. With schools increasingly becoming the front line in the culture war, can public education survive? Then, Skye talks to Rachel Martin, the co-creator of NPR’s Wild Card podcast and former host of Morning Edition, about what she’s learned from interviewing artists, actors, and activists about their beliefs. She offers an intriguing glimpse into the spirituality of secular America. Also this week—the internet is full of bad advice about “toxic” relationships.
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0:00 - Show Starts
2:30 - Theme Song
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5:02 - LGBTQ Schoolbook Opt-Outs
27:12 - Who’s Toxic?
35:18 - Did We Jettison Forgiveness?
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49:45 - Interview
55:00 - Staying Informed without Burnout
59:30 - Rachel’s Spiritual Background
1:13:52 - The Wild Card podcast and Spirituality
1:27:32 - End Credits
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Listening to it now and I find the reference to Roman Catholics and “conservative Christians”—twice now (13:42 in)—as if RCs are something other than Christians—disturbing. “Conservative Protestants” or “Conservative Evangelicals” would be better, because Roman Catholics are absolutely, 100%, Christians. (Heck, “Conservative Roman Catholics” would be better as well —not all RCs are conservatives.)
Yes, this case involved a RC family and a Muslim family, so framing it as solely about conservative Christians would be inaccurate, but 50% of the two families are, indeed, Christians.