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562: Fox Fires Tucker, Toxic Gun Culture, & Rethinking Revivals with Derwin Gray


After admitting it broadcast election lies and conspiracies, and paying $787 million in damages, Fox News has fired its most popular host. Does this signal a change at the cable news network? An online chatbot says Christianity gives it hope. Are we witnessing the first A.I. convert? Then, more innocent people are being shot by fearful gun owners who “feel threatened.” Is this the inevitable outcome of America’s addiction to fear and idolatry of guns? And Derwin Gray is back to ask a question he’s been sitting on for 20 years—why isn’t the Civil Rights Movement considered a Christian revival? He talks to Skye about the history of revivals in America, and how economic and political idols have prevented us from truly embracing the messianic mandate of Jesus. Plus, a Florida shark got hammered on spring break.



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0:00 - Intro


3:25 - Theme Song


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4:55 - Tucker Carlson Fired from Fox News


15:31 - Florida Man Beats Shark with Hammer


19:20 - Google AI becomes a Christian?


24:06 - Recent “Wrong Place, Wrong time” Shootings


36:50 - Feelings and Institutions


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50:16 - Interview Intro


53:11 - Why the Civil Rights Movement should be considered a revival


1:03:14 - Were the great American revivals of the past actually revivals?


1:11:55 - Problems of seeing faith as only individualistic


1:24:12 - End Credits



Links mentioned in news segment:


Florida man accused of beating a shark with a hammer arrested


Experimental Google AI 'Bard' talks faith in the first person, says 'Christianity gives me hope'


Common mistakes, uncommon reactions in 4 separate shootings



Other resources:


Why Isn’t the Civil Rights Movement Considered a Revival Movement?


How to Heal Our Racial Divide by Derwin Gray


Missional and Multiethnic: Are You Ready for the Future of the Church?


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20 Comments


Sarah Lowe
Sarah Lowe
Apr 29, 2023

I was really glad that Kaitlyn stepped in and mentioned that the line between "reasonable" and "emotional" isn't always as clear-cut as we think. Also, the more that an issue affects you personally, the more "emotional" you may feel when discussing it. A white person might feel like they are having a "dispassionate, rational conversation" and trying to "consider all sides" of racial justice issues in a conversation with a person of color, while that same conversation may feel very upsetting and emotionally draining to the person who is personally impacted by the injustices being discussed. Also, I thought Dr. Gray's interview was good, but it made me uncomfortable when he started talking about the dangers of the "progressive left"…

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Peggy Balcom
Peggy Balcom
Apr 28, 2023

It makes me really sad to hear Skye say the church isn't preaching the gospel. He's going to the wrong church. He seems very negative about the church. I am so very thankful for my local church and the part it plays in my community and in my personal life.

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Skye Jethani
Skye Jethani
Apr 27, 2023

At least three times in my remarks I deliberately and explicitly said silencing speech and shooting people are NOT morally the same. Here are the quotes and time stamps... 34:21 Regarding cancel culture, "I know it's different because you're not talking about lethal force" 34:58 "Obviously, pulling the trigger of a gun has far-reaching consequences in a way that silencing the speaker on a university campus does not." 41:13 "I'm not trying to make a moral equivalence between shooting a stranger at the door and silencing a speaker on a college campus. What I'm trying to show is the common root, the common dysfunction of our society is we no longer trust our institutions and we are trusting our feelings and fears instead." Accusing…

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johnsonut
johnsonut
May 01, 2023
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Can we at least agree that you are comparing them as both things that are bad? Can we also agree that you are comparing them as different reactions to the same core issues? If we can agree to those, I still think you are wrong that young people using their freedom of speech and protesting peacefully (in-person or online) is bad. Young people protesting at a university was a trope 25 years ago. It is not some new phenomenon. Students have protested things for centuries now.


If instead you think the students are fine to protest peacefully, but the administration is wrong to surrender to their protest (you alluded to this), then this is not a "both sides" issue. University leadershi…

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Phil Vischer
Phil Vischer
Apr 27, 2023

Riley Gaines was recently attacked at San Francisco State University... A federal judge was prevented from speaking at Stanford Law School by angry protestors, just to give two examples from the last month.

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And what traumas, or how close to death did either Riley Gaines or this judge come on pain of "canceling"? Angry protesters are hardly the same thing as flying bullets -- or even the threat of flying bullets.


Holding unpopular opinions, expressing them gently and respectfully (as opposed to angrily and stridently -- haven't heard Ms. Gains speak so I can't say which way she goes), and then being abused for them and bearing up with grace are the sorts of things people of good conscience should glory in, no?


Trans-athlete participation is a bit of a lightning rod topic on either side (the closest to "both-sides-ing" you'll ever hear me do) and one for which Ms. Gaines has a…


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Bonnie Toney
Bonnie Toney
Apr 26, 2023

I’m so disappointed that Skye keeps coming back to the tired and debunked refrain of cancel culture on college campuses. It’s not happening, Skye. And then to extrapolate from that to say that “the Left” is against free speech? Have you looked at Florida lately? And other right-wing controlled states where they are trying to prevent people from any freedom of expression with which they disagree? It is NOT the boogeyman of “The Left” trying to prevent people from criticizing public officials, or talking about their families, or mandating the presence of one religion’s religious code in all classrooms, or preventing even legislative discussio of gun control measures, or trying to prevent ballot initiatives in general but especially on reproductive…

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I would disagree - cancel culture is happening on college campuses, but at least in my small little corner of campus, I would say this attitude of cancel culture is often from happening from students and is being reacted to poorly by faculty and administrators and politicians. I think a private university (just like a private business) can decide, based on its core mission and values, to decide not to have a particular speaker because the speaker does not align with the university’s core mission and values. For public universities funded by the state, there is a lot of politicization going on right now. In Texas, the lieutenant governor is trying to pass bills that would allow political appointees to…

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