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536: Listener Voicemails! Archeology, Abortion, & Avoiding Holiday Family Arguments

Updated: Nov 28, 2022


Just in time for the holidays, the Holy Post crew is answering another round of voicemails from our Patreon supporters. On this episode, Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn respond to listener questions about how much confidence to put in archeological evidence for the Bible, how did Christians interpret Revelation before the recent invention of "Left Behind" theology, when does satire and social media become sinful, what abortion policies could most Americans agree on, and how do you practice the Sabbath with a demanding job and young kids? Plus, they offer practical advice for avoiding arguments with your family about politics and religion during holiday gatherings.


Just in time for the holidays, the Holy Post crew is answering another round of voicemails from our Patreon supporters. On this episode, Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn respond to listener questions about how much confidence to put in archeological evidence for the Bible, how did Christians interpret Revelation before the recent invention of "Left Behind" theology, when does satire and social media become sinful, what abortion policies could most Americans agree on, and how do you practice the Sabbath with a demanding job and young kids? Plus, they offer practical advice for avoiding arguments with your family about politics and religion during holiday gatherings.

Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Creeds 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/74991905/ New Holy Post merch - https://www.holypost.com/shop 00:00 - Sponsor: InterVarsity Press Get 30% off “The Thrill of Orthodoxy” by Trevin Wax with code: THRILL30 at: https://ivpress.com/the-thrill-of-orthodoxy 00:44 - Intro 6:08 - Ben: Holiday family conversations 11:55 - Brad and Carrie: Dispensationalism 22:58 - Millie: Mocking

25:51 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/holypost

27:05 - Cody: Healthy social media use 32:02 - Mark: Sabbath 36:08 - Ali: Archeology and the Bible 46:08 - Peter: How nations treat foreigners 52:03 - Trudie: Political thinking around helping the poor 1:02:31 - Yong: Policies around abortion 1:09:57 - Credits

Past episodes and other resources mentioned: Holy Post Episode 244: Cultural Lies, Human Longings & the Gospel with Trevin Wax - https://www.holypost.com/holy-post-podcast/episode/1c5a47cf/episode-244-cultural-lies-human-longings-and-the-gospel-withtrevin-wax

Holy Post Episode 410: White Privilege, Cancel Culture, & Reading Revelation with Juan Hernandez - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-410-white-privilege-cancel-culture-reading-revelation-with-juan-hernandez

Holy Post Episode 506: The Pro-Life Case for Paid Family Leave with Rachel Anderson - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-506-the-pro-life-case-for-paid-family-leave-with-rachel-anderson

“The Millennial Maze” by Stanley J. Grenz - https://amzn.to/3tTUljk

“The Liturgy of Politics” by Kaitlyn Schiess - https://amzn.to/3GzrGI1

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Gabrielle Hastings
Gabrielle Hastings
Nov 26, 2022

Here’s a piece of animal news you might enjoy on the subject of toxic toads and bin chickens. Australia: How 'bin chickens' learnt to wash poisonous cane toads https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-63699884

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Stuart Chase
Stuart Chase
Nov 24, 2022

Two suggestions here: (1) A series of bonus episodes in which someone interviews non-futurists on Revelation. So have an interview with a historicist, and idealist, and a preterist to highlight alternate orthodox interpretations of Revelation. (2) A series of YouTube shorts every times Phil says something that elicits one of Kaitlyn's facial expressions. This week's highlight at 32:45 while talking about psychedelic toads is the perfect launching point for this.

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Non- or not-entirely- futurist interpretations of Revelation: Check out Brad Jersak's "Her Gates Will Never Be Shut" -- and he's a very interesting interview, to boot.

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Doing good to the poor becomes "socialism" or "communism" (in the US):


As Heather Cox Richardson (with and without Joanne Freeman on "Now & Then") has talked about repeatedly, any time progressive taxation is thought of to harness the funds of all (but more of the rich [white] than of the poor [black]), it's interpreted as an illegitimate taking by part of the political spectrum. And "communism" became a bogeyman word just after the civil war, in the extreme referring to the "Paris Commune". It got re-adopted in the Cold War but it's older than as given in Kaitlyn's otherwise pretty good summary.


And for me Christian politics has to start with a resounding, "hell yeah!" to Cain's question about…


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Lisa Crews
Lisa Crews
Nov 23, 2022

If you want something to talk about at Thanksgiving, talk about your favorite memories of your loved ones no longer with you and what you loved most about them. Also, next year, consider buying a physical Christmas card(s) and stamps for Thanksgiving and writing down a few sentences or a couple of paragraphs to a living person/people or organization that 're thankful for and why what they did/do is so meaningful to you. It can be done individually or as a group activity at Thanksgiving. Then mail it/them. People who receive those kinds of things often keep them for years if it's a physical communication instead of an electronic one. Don't wait until they're dead to say it at th…

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Matthew Dowell
Matthew Dowell
Nov 23, 2022

I think the authority comes from God. Neither the text, the event, OR the bible teacher, actually has it. And in a way, the teacher saying that the text has the authority, is just slight-of-hand which the teacher assumes the authority anyway. Humility is required to approach the texts we read that we are not God and should never approach scripture with any absolute that text in-of-itself a symbol or logos could ever actually have authority by itself to do anything, to do so is to invite idolatry or an image of God or the mediums which allude to him as a replacement for God.


(2 Timothy 3) All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and…


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